Recently i started a debate between some of my friends. The subject; "Does it really matter if a presidential candidates stance on abortion and same sex marriage differs from yours?"Tons of comments were made, ranging all across the spectrum. Because of such, I wanted to use this as an opportunity to challenge you to look beyond the surface in your thinking. Remember Winnie the Pooh; "Think, think, think". (Am i the only one that remembers Winnie the Pooh?)
1) Yes, as a Christian i do not agree with abortion or homosexuality. I believe that life begins at conception and that abortion is a true evil that needs to be rooted out of our society. I also believe that it is an unfortunate thing that we have to have a discussion around same sex marriage, I don't agree with it. With saying that, I am full of compassion and love for anyone who has dealt with either of these issues. Is dealing with them or feel differently than me. I feel for you and I ain't judging. I love you and we can still get a cup of Teavana together.
2) Church folks...however, if you are going to vote strictly on these two moral issues remember that Ungodliness encompasses more than just abortion and homosexuality. Isn't it just as evil to allow human genocide in a place such as Darfur, or to trade weapons with a country or group that you know will use it against innocent people? How about the damage we are doing to the environment? Do you honestly think either candidate is pro killing babies and homosexuality? (usually they understand that those are choices that people make and its really a question of constitutional rights; can people can exercise those choices not a question of morality).
3) Do you know how our government works? The president cant just go in and pronounce abortion against the law and same sex marriages illegal. The president is part of the "executive" branch of government. He cannot change laws or originate them. His job is to execute what is passed by congress and the senate (legislative branches) and uphold what the supreme court (judicial branch) says is right or wrong.
4) Hasn't every Republican president in the last 30 years gotten into office waving these morality issues? Has anything changed. In fact didn't Bush get into office almost solely on Evangelical Christians voting on moral issues...what has happened as a result? Give me one piece of legislation that has overturned abortion or abolished same sex marriages.
5) Isn't it funny that many people wave these "polarizing" issues whenever they seem to be loosing ground in other areas that the president actually can effect, like the economy or our position on the world stage?
6) Can you really legislate morality? Remember your history...prohibition. They made drinking illegal and we say where that got us. Organized crime shot through the roof and people just simply drank in private instead of publicly.
I just say all this to make you think...i haven't exactly figured where i stand on these issues...however I know its deeper than what you see on the surface....I just want you to think!
I am in no way saying that i am a Democrat or Republican in this post...so please don't take this as such a declaration...
- The Hipster
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fam, i totaly feel you on this blog. any comment that i would make has already been written by you lol.
I've been trying to explain this to people for a while. As far as legislating morality goes, I can't believe Christians try to push for that. We have an example of legislating morality - its called "The Old Testament." How did that work out for Israel?
Also, why do we get mad at the "governments role in abortion?" I thought mothers, not the government, line up at abortion clinics to have abortions on their own free will.
I think abortion is a horrible, horrible, horrible act. Unfortunately, the judicial branch believes its a right protected by our Constitution. Why don't we come up with a "Whole Life" plan and not just a "Pro Life" plan? What about getting proper education and health care for children in under served parts of the country. What about federally funding other choices for adoption and programs like it? What about federal spending on non-religious based abstinence programs? What about creating better environments so that we have fewer unwanted pregnancies? More jobs for women at equal pay that men have? Financial education on the high school - and NOT government econ, but basic financial education so that women are taught early howo to handle money and not have to depend on the men they sleep with?
Sorry, I'm ranting now...I don't want to blog-jack so I'm stopping here..
Steve Patton
I see where you are coming from but, Obama's record on abortion is extreme. I've done research and this is what I found.
He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And he has said that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.
Michelle Obama wrote a fundraising letter in 2004 to help her husband raise funds for his Illinois-based Senate seat defending partial-birth abortions.
The letter contends the federal ban on partial-birth abortions "is clearly unconstitutional" and "a flawed law" -- though the Supreme Court would later say the measure is constitutionally valid.
Though the three-day-long partial-birth abortion procedure involves the partial birth of a baby during the middle trimester of pregnancy and the jamming of scissors into the back of her head to kill her, Obama's wife describes it as "legitimate" medicine.
Just something to think about...
gayla, i hear you. However, im not negating the fact that he supports laws that favor abortion. What im saying is does it really matter? Most likely in the next two terms no supreme court justices will be replaced...how does his stance on abortion affect anything else. I dont think it does.
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